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Comments on: What a mess http://bikeskirt.com/2011/11/21/3084/ Just another WordPress weblog Sun, 23 Apr 2017 21:49:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Nathan http://bikeskirt.com/2011/11/21/3084/#comment-4406 Nathan Fri, 25 Nov 2011 22:26:19 +0000 http://bikeskirt.com/?p=3084#comment-4406 Great post. We need to keep fighting our corner and riding our bikes to work, to the shops, etc. Don't be shy about taking an evangelical line, any converts you make will thank you for ever. Please take a look at my Bike Blog called A Bikeride a Day which you vcan find at http://rideaday.wordpress.com/ Thanks Nathan Great post. We need to keep fighting our corner and riding our bikes to work, to the shops, etc. Don’t be shy about taking an evangelical line, any converts you make will thank you for ever.
Please take a look at my Bike Blog called A Bikeride a Day which you vcan find at http://rideaday.wordpress.com/
Thanks Nathan

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By: Sam http://bikeskirt.com/2011/11/21/3084/#comment-4374 Sam Thu, 24 Nov 2011 04:58:58 +0000 http://bikeskirt.com/?p=3084#comment-4374 You're extremely coherent and I loved this post. I've thought about this same thing for years. I think over a decade now. And I've always lived in cities (except for three miserable years) and I love the urban landscape more than I can express in words. And I've been very frustrated for years and years on why people weren't logical and just worked to make cities awesome? What is wrong with people that they live in the suburbs and make shitty choices and add to their overall misery. And then...I read Death and Life of Great American Cities by Jane Jacobs and Building Suburbia by Dolores Hayden and I decided I was going to (to use that oft repeated, and frankly annoying to me phrase), be the change I wanted to see in the world. I've gotten involved with advocacy issues. For me, creating a livable environment with access to healthy food is all that is needed for eternally blissful lives. So I started out small, making a phone call to a legislator, writing an email to a councilmember. Then I stepped it up a notch and began attending public meetings and speaking up: against parking garages, in favor of bike lanes, in favor of infill development, against expansion of freeways, in favor of increasing transit, in favor of beautiful street design that is inviting to its self-propelled users. Jane Jacobs has proven to me that someone with remarkably humble beginnings can make a significant difference and I am inspired to do the same. Two months ago, I did something I'm still very embarrassed to admit because it is from a logical perspective utterly idiotic: I quit my job to devote the next 1-2 years 100% to advocacy efforts. I am working on an incredibly local level - my own neighborhood. I am asking for a local skatepark for the kids in my neighborhood, I'm working on bringing Ciclovia to San Diego, I'm working on taming high speed streets to more people scaled ones, I am joining committees left and right just so I can speak my voice that believes in creating a city that is sane, friendlier and inviting to both its residents and its visitors. I want to see how much I'm capable of and the funny thing is, I'm learning that it is remarkably easy. There are a few wrinkles here and there, but I am insanely persistent and patient and I am seeing results. I've been at it for less than a year and I'm already seeing progress. Keep up the hope and don't give up! If we all did it in our own communities, bit by bit - we'd soon see changes. Let's just not give up and become complacent. You’re extremely coherent and I loved this post.

I’ve thought about this same thing for years. I think over a decade now. And I’ve always lived in cities (except for three miserable years) and I love the urban landscape more than I can express in words. And I’ve been very frustrated for years and years on why people weren’t logical and just worked to make cities awesome? What is wrong with people that they live in the suburbs and make shitty choices and add to their overall misery.

And then…I read Death and Life of Great American Cities by Jane Jacobs and Building Suburbia by Dolores Hayden and I decided I was going to (to use that oft repeated, and frankly annoying to me phrase), be the change I wanted to see in the world. I’ve gotten involved with advocacy issues. For me, creating a livable environment with access to healthy food is all that is needed for eternally blissful lives. So I started out small, making a phone call to a legislator, writing an email to a councilmember. Then I stepped it up a notch and began attending public meetings and speaking up: against parking garages, in favor of bike lanes, in favor of infill development, against expansion of freeways, in favor of increasing transit, in favor of beautiful street design that is inviting to its self-propelled users. Jane Jacobs has proven to me that someone with remarkably humble beginnings can make a significant difference and I am inspired to do the same. Two months ago, I did something I’m still very embarrassed to admit because it is from a logical perspective utterly idiotic: I quit my job to devote the next 1-2 years 100% to advocacy efforts. I am working on an incredibly local level – my own neighborhood. I am asking for a local skatepark for the kids in my neighborhood, I’m working on bringing Ciclovia to San Diego, I’m working on taming high speed streets to more people scaled ones, I am joining committees left and right just so I can speak my voice that believes in creating a city that is sane, friendlier and inviting to both its residents and its visitors. I want to see how much I’m capable of and the funny thing is, I’m learning that it is remarkably easy. There are a few wrinkles here and there, but I am insanely persistent and patient and I am seeing results. I’ve been at it for less than a year and I’m already seeing progress. Keep up the hope and don’t give up! If we all did it in our own communities, bit by bit – we’d soon see changes. Let’s just not give up and become complacent.

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By: Erica http://bikeskirt.com/2011/11/21/3084/#comment-4371 Erica Thu, 24 Nov 2011 03:03:52 +0000 http://bikeskirt.com/?p=3084#comment-4371 <i>I believe that many people live in the suburbs now because that’s what everyone else does</i> Oh, definitely. We have an entire generation that's been told you can't have a successful life without a large house with a big yard in the suburbs. I'm 30 and have lived in cities quite happily for seven years, and my mom still likes to say things like "well, one day you'll own a NICE house." Meaning one like hers, two sizes too big, full of meaningless crap, and with a yard you could put a small farm on (although they can't, the HOA doesn't allow the yards to be used for anything practical). She still and will always see living in a city as a step down from suburbia. It's impossible to explain to her why her version of paradise is my version of hell. Still, I think the race stuff is pretty central to this. Around here in Baltimore, both the city and the suburbs are extremely segregated, and the black suburbanites seem just as confused as to why anyone would want to live in the city. In MD, it feels almost like everyone is slotted into a specific city neighborhood or suburban enclave based on their income and race, and even moving back into the city doesn't help with integration, as we predictably moved into the white hipster section of the city. I still feel more comfortable and like I'm a better person here than in the suburbs though. I believe that many people live in the suburbs now because that’s what everyone else does

Oh, definitely. We have an entire generation that’s been told you can’t have a successful life without a large house with a big yard in the suburbs. I’m 30 and have lived in cities quite happily for seven years, and my mom still likes to say things like “well, one day you’ll own a NICE house.” Meaning one like hers, two sizes too big, full of meaningless crap, and with a yard you could put a small farm on (although they can’t, the HOA doesn’t allow the yards to be used for anything practical). She still and will always see living in a city as a step down from suburbia. It’s impossible to explain to her why her version of paradise is my version of hell.

Still, I think the race stuff is pretty central to this. Around here in Baltimore, both the city and the suburbs are extremely segregated, and the black suburbanites seem just as confused as to why anyone would want to live in the city. In MD, it feels almost like everyone is slotted into a specific city neighborhood or suburban enclave based on their income and race, and even moving back into the city doesn’t help with integration, as we predictably moved into the white hipster section of the city. I still feel more comfortable and like I’m a better person here than in the suburbs though.

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By: Anna http://bikeskirt.com/2011/11/21/3084/#comment-4363 Anna Wed, 23 Nov 2011 17:12:56 +0000 http://bikeskirt.com/?p=3084#comment-4363 Thanks for the comment Dave! Your note about the Occupy protest is something I hadn't heard, but it's yet another example of how screwy priorities are. I love to see how much Portland is progressing toward intentional city dwelling, and I hope that change will come our way one day. I want to stick it out here and be a part of that change, but I won't deny that places like Portland call my name! Thanks for the comment Dave! Your note about the Occupy protest is something I hadn’t heard, but it’s yet another example of how screwy priorities are.
I love to see how much Portland is progressing toward intentional city dwelling, and I hope that change will come our way one day. I want to stick it out here and be a part of that change, but I won’t deny that places like Portland call my name!

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By: Anna http://bikeskirt.com/2011/11/21/3084/#comment-4362 Anna Wed, 23 Nov 2011 17:09:10 +0000 http://bikeskirt.com/?p=3084#comment-4362 It's interesting you mention white people Bliss Chick; the people I was referring to were indeed white, but in general what I would consider the suburbs is populated by all races. I think your definition of success is an aspiration in America regardless of race, and white people have just had more opportunities to obtain it for a longer period of time. I don't believe the racial divide is in the past, especially where I live, but I think it's important to recognize that we all, regardless of race, need to exercise critical thinking when it comes to how we organize and live our lives. I know many people who have been injured in bike accidents (myself included - never been injured in a car accident), and will be one of the first to say that road riding is dangerous. However, this is mainly because of the cars on the road and the people who drive them. Driving is dangerous for everyone, weather you're another driver, a pedestrian, or a cyclist. Until roads are built to be safer, drivers are educated, and the numbers of cars on the road are reduced, we're all sitting ducks. It’s interesting you mention white people Bliss Chick; the people I was referring to were indeed white, but in general what I would consider the suburbs is populated by all races. I think your definition of success is an aspiration in America regardless of race, and white people have just had more opportunities to obtain it for a longer period of time. I don’t believe the racial divide is in the past, especially where I live, but I think it’s important to recognize that we all, regardless of race, need to exercise critical thinking when it comes to how we organize and live our lives.

I know many people who have been injured in bike accidents (myself included – never been injured in a car accident), and will be one of the first to say that road riding is dangerous. However, this is mainly because of the cars on the road and the people who drive them. Driving is dangerous for everyone, weather you’re another driver, a pedestrian, or a cyclist. Until roads are built to be safer, drivers are educated, and the numbers of cars on the road are reduced, we’re all sitting ducks.

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By: Anna http://bikeskirt.com/2011/11/21/3084/#comment-4361 Anna Wed, 23 Nov 2011 16:31:37 +0000 http://bikeskirt.com/?p=3084#comment-4361 While I agree that white flight was the originator of suburbia Erica, along with the subsequent black flight, I believe that many people live in the suburbs now because that's what everyone else does - it's mindless conformity, and that's what concerns me. I grew up in the suburbs, but while I decided to live in the city when it was time to get my own place, the majority of my peers still live in that area or have moved even further away from the city center. While I agree that white flight was the originator of suburbia Erica, along with the subsequent black flight, I believe that many people live in the suburbs now because that’s what everyone else does – it’s mindless conformity, and that’s what concerns me. I grew up in the suburbs, but while I decided to live in the city when it was time to get my own place, the majority of my peers still live in that area or have moved even further away from the city center.

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By: Justin http://bikeskirt.com/2011/11/21/3084/#comment-4359 Justin Wed, 23 Nov 2011 00:23:16 +0000 http://bikeskirt.com/?p=3084#comment-4359 Been a long time! Great coherent post! Been a long time! Great coherent post!

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By: Luke http://bikeskirt.com/2011/11/21/3084/#comment-4358 Luke Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:54:30 +0000 http://bikeskirt.com/?p=3084#comment-4358 Awesome post, Anna! Awesome post, Anna!

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By: Russ http://bikeskirt.com/2011/11/21/3084/#comment-4357 Russ Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:50:33 +0000 http://bikeskirt.com/?p=3084#comment-4357 I am trying to aspire to a walking/biking scenario with my upcoming move. My plan is to sell the car and do everything on foot or bike. I've built my urban assault machine(s) and I'm ready for the joy. I am trying to aspire to a walking/biking scenario with my upcoming move. My plan is to sell the car and do everything on foot or bike. I’ve built my urban assault machine(s) and I’m ready for the joy.

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By: Elisa http://bikeskirt.com/2011/11/21/3084/#comment-4356 Elisa Tue, 22 Nov 2011 20:52:33 +0000 http://bikeskirt.com/?p=3084#comment-4356 This post is reason #59676 that I love Anna. This post is reason #59676 that I love Anna.

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