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		<title>By: Spokker</title>
		<link>http://bikeskirt.com/2009/06/29/critical-mass-whats-right/#comment-1019</link>
		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is advocacy? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hemN2KfJLw

I am a driver and at the risk of tooting my own horn, I think I&#039;m a pretty good driver who is not only respectful of other drivers, but cyclists and pedestrians as well. This is just insane. Some participants admit there are bad apples, but in this video it looks like everyone is a bad apple. 

You know those dick drivers you hate? Well, other drivers hate those dicks too. But the ones who weave in and out of traffic are the minority of drivers on the road. You are not a victim. Drivers are not the enemy. 

I don&#039;t know how to stop the cycle of hate, but it sure as fuck isn&#039;t going to stop with what I see in that video.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is advocacy? <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hemN2KfJLw" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hemN2KfJLw&amp;referer=');">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hemN2KfJLw</a></p>
<p>I am a driver and at the risk of tooting my own horn, I think I&#8217;m a pretty good driver who is not only respectful of other drivers, but cyclists and pedestrians as well. This is just insane. Some participants admit there are bad apples, but in this video it looks like everyone is a bad apple. </p>
<p>You know those dick drivers you hate? Well, other drivers hate those dicks too. But the ones who weave in and out of traffic are the minority of drivers on the road. You are not a victim. Drivers are not the enemy. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how to stop the cycle of hate, but it sure as fuck isn&#8217;t going to stop with what I see in that video.</p>
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		<title>By: FixedXorBroken</title>
		<link>http://bikeskirt.com/2009/06/29/critical-mass-whats-right/#comment-916</link>
		<dc:creator>FixedXorBroken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Toronto it&#039;s like a rolling party, with a jovial atmosphere following us around town, and very few altercations taking place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our only issue is the inconsistent approach that the police take. Most of the time they ignore us. Once or twice they&#039;ve ridden along and corked, and they also harass once in a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Toronto it&#39;s like a rolling party, with a jovial atmosphere following us around town, and very few altercations taking place.</p>
<p>Our only issue is the inconsistent approach that the police take. Most of the time they ignore us. Once or twice they&#39;ve ridden along and corked, and they also harass once in a while.</p>
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		<title>By: GeekGuyAndy</title>
		<link>http://bikeskirt.com/2009/06/29/critical-mass-whats-right/#comment-910</link>
		<dc:creator>GeekGuyAndy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the CM rides here that I rode with last year. The group was generally 20-30 people, and the laws are followed reasonably. If the group starts to get through a light and it changes, then a few people make sure cars are stopped while the group catches up so that we don&#039;t break apart. It&#039;s better to hold up traffic by going slowly on a bike than to just stop as two groups instead.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The only time drivers tend to get mad is when we take over the rotary and go around 10-15 times. But in reality I see more people in the cars laughing the first minute instead of being angry. It typically leaves the circle once someone starts honking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do not agree with anyone that hits a car, throws bottles or gestures, UNLESS the driver was the one starting the fight. Then I call fair game to block them out. I ride by the law 99% of the time in the city, so when a driver starts behaving badly, I don&#039;t have a problem calling them out on it. In my utopia that&#039;s how it would be - everyone gets along nicely, and if you don&#039;t play well than don&#039;t expect a kind reaction!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the CM rides here that I rode with last year. The group was generally 20-30 people, and the laws are followed reasonably. If the group starts to get through a light and it changes, then a few people make sure cars are stopped while the group catches up so that we don&#39;t break apart. It&#39;s better to hold up traffic by going slowly on a bike than to just stop as two groups instead.</p>
<p>The only time drivers tend to get mad is when we take over the rotary and go around 10-15 times. But in reality I see more people in the cars laughing the first minute instead of being angry. It typically leaves the circle once someone starts honking.</p>
<p>I do not agree with anyone that hits a car, throws bottles or gestures, UNLESS the driver was the one starting the fight. Then I call fair game to block them out. I ride by the law 99% of the time in the city, so when a driver starts behaving badly, I don&#39;t have a problem calling them out on it. In my utopia that&#39;s how it would be &#8211; everyone gets along nicely, and if you don&#39;t play well than don&#39;t expect a kind reaction!</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://bikeskirt.com/2009/06/29/critical-mass-whats-right/#comment-898</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks everyone for the comments, it&#039;s really helpful to get perspectives from across the world!  Sounds like resentment from all sides is something that we do not want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks everyone for the comments, it&#39;s really helpful to get perspectives from across the world!  Sounds like resentment from all sides is something that we do not want.</p>
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		<title>By: man</title>
		<link>http://bikeskirt.com/2009/06/29/critical-mass-whats-right/#comment-895</link>
		<dc:creator>man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Living in the &quot;birthplace&quot; of Critical Mass - San Francisco and someone who rides to work I believe Critical Mass sucks and has done more harm for bicycling than any good it set out to accomplish. To me, CM is just another segment of the bike culture that claims &quot;do your own thing, ride your bike&quot; but if you don&#039;t agree with their tactics watch out. I believe they have made it more dangerous for bicyclists on the road. A lot of  drivers around here associate all bicyclists with the arrogant aggressive attitude of CM riders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living in the &quot;birthplace&quot; of Critical Mass &#8211; San Francisco and someone who rides to work I believe Critical Mass sucks and has done more harm for bicycling than any good it set out to accomplish. To me, CM is just another segment of the bike culture that claims &quot;do your own thing, ride your bike&quot; but if you don&#39;t agree with their tactics watch out. I believe they have made it more dangerous for bicyclists on the road. A lot of  drivers around here associate all bicyclists with the arrogant aggressive attitude of CM riders.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason McDowell</title>
		<link>http://bikeskirt.com/2009/06/29/critical-mass-whats-right/#comment-893</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason McDowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OnMilwaukee.com ran an article about corking a couple of weeks ago: http://onmilwaukee.com/buzz/articles/criticalmasscorking.html (I wrote it).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s clear from the comments that fighting for your rights by breaking the law is viewed unfavorably by most Milwaukeeans, between cyclists AND motorists.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Granted Critical Mass in Milwaukee is super tiny because the police got involved a few years ago and gave it a bad name, so our mass hasn&#039;t really presented a problem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nevertheless I feel like 80% of CM riders are courteous, 10% are aggressive and the other 10% fall somewhere between. It&#039;s hard to agree or disagree when it comes to an unorganized group of people, but in the end you can vote with your wheels. If you don&#039;t like it, you can go somewhere else.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I LOVE the idea of &quot;Courteous Mass&quot; though. I might have to jump on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OnMilwaukee.com ran an article about corking a couple of weeks ago: <a href="http://onmilwaukee.com/buzz/articles/criticalmasscorking.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/onmilwaukee.com/buzz/articles/criticalmasscorking.html?referer=');">http://onmilwaukee.com/buzz/articles/criticalmasscorking.html</a> (I wrote it).</p>
<p>It&#39;s clear from the comments that fighting for your rights by breaking the law is viewed unfavorably by most Milwaukeeans, between cyclists AND motorists.</p>
<p>Granted Critical Mass in Milwaukee is super tiny because the police got involved a few years ago and gave it a bad name, so our mass hasn&#39;t really presented a problem.</p>
<p>Nevertheless I feel like 80% of CM riders are courteous, 10% are aggressive and the other 10% fall somewhere between. It&#39;s hard to agree or disagree when it comes to an unorganized group of people, but in the end you can vote with your wheels. If you don&#39;t like it, you can go somewhere else.</p>
<p>I LOVE the idea of &quot;Courteous Mass&quot; though. I might have to jump on that.</p>
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		<title>By: cisellis</title>
		<link>http://bikeskirt.com/2009/06/29/critical-mass-whats-right/#comment-892</link>
		<dc:creator>cisellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have not been a part of and been stuck with the Critical Mass in NYC or San Francisco, you should try it before signing on to the full ideology...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Critical Mass is a group that in the major cities has lost its way, and in my opinion, done more damage than good.  In San Francisco, they went the &quot;raise hell&quot; route and are basically regarded as a street gang.  Everyone thought the idea was great until they were stuck with it for a while.  The reality is that they shut down the road one Friday a month and were seriously aggressive to drivers that had no idea what was even going on half of the time.  I was at a bus stop and watched a guy on a bike run a red light, hit a car in the fender and then he and his friends tried to drag the poor guy out of his car and beat him.  The guy in the car had been stuck at that light for 3 full revolutions...red/green/red/green/red/green because the bikes wouldn&#039;t let him through.  I saw another group stopped in the middle of an intersection, blocking traffic, taunting cars and throwing bottles at them.  I have a bike, don&#039;t care much for cars, love public transit and with all my heart hate Critical Mass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have not been a part of and been stuck with the Critical Mass in NYC or San Francisco, you should try it before signing on to the full ideology&#8230;</p>
<p>Critical Mass is a group that in the major cities has lost its way, and in my opinion, done more damage than good.  In San Francisco, they went the &quot;raise hell&quot; route and are basically regarded as a street gang.  Everyone thought the idea was great until they were stuck with it for a while.  The reality is that they shut down the road one Friday a month and were seriously aggressive to drivers that had no idea what was even going on half of the time.  I was at a bus stop and watched a guy on a bike run a red light, hit a car in the fender and then he and his friends tried to drag the poor guy out of his car and beat him.  The guy in the car had been stuck at that light for 3 full revolutions&#8230;red/green/red/green/red/green because the bikes wouldn&#39;t let him through.  I saw another group stopped in the middle of an intersection, blocking traffic, taunting cars and throwing bottles at them.  I have a bike, don&#39;t care much for cars, love public transit and with all my heart hate Critical Mass.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://bikeskirt.com/2009/06/29/critical-mass-whats-right/#comment-889</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d prefer we didn&#039;t cork. I probably won&#039;t participate if we do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;d prefer we didn&#39;t cork. I probably won&#39;t participate if we do.</p>
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		<title>By: Danielle</title>
		<link>http://bikeskirt.com/2009/06/29/critical-mass-whats-right/#comment-888</link>
		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wrote a blog about this! You should check it out of my opinion. How funny, well not really since critical mass was last Friday and I participated in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wrote a blog about this! You should check it out of my opinion. How funny, well not really since critical mass was last Friday and I participated in it.</p>
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		<title>By: She Rides a Bike</title>
		<link>http://bikeskirt.com/2009/06/29/critical-mass-whats-right/#comment-887</link>
		<dc:creator>She Rides a Bike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to do a Critical Mass but I also believe you win more converts and acceptance when you follow the rules of the road.  I am very conscious of my vulnerability on a bike and also that I can catch a driver unaware.  If I am not following the rules of the road and a driver hits and seriously injures me, whose fault is it really?  It just comes down to common curtesy.  I try and model on my bike how I want to be treated by drivers.  A smile, nod and a wave don&#039;t hurt either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;d love to do a Critical Mass but I also believe you win more converts and acceptance when you follow the rules of the road.  I am very conscious of my vulnerability on a bike and also that I can catch a driver unaware.  If I am not following the rules of the road and a driver hits and seriously injures me, whose fault is it really?  It just comes down to common curtesy.  I try and model on my bike how I want to be treated by drivers.  A smile, nod and a wave don&#39;t hurt either.</p>
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